Hey hey welcome back the fanatic life podcast not just all of you. But also my co-host Jamie Tipton jamie great to have you back. Man. What's been going on.

00:37.80
Jamie
Glad to be here now doing good doing good doing good giving people what they want which is courses more me, but you know here we are.

00:44.16
gunterman
You're freezing up first day back.

00:50.49
gunterman
Well I understand and and I appreciate that because people had really rallied outside my house you know asking you know with signs hey you know where's Jamie hey you know, get him back or I will no longer listen that type of thing and so.

01:06.42
Jamie
It was probably my like. Where's the other guy.

01:09.73
gunterman
Like that like didn't you have another guy with you What what was his name again. Ah ah, right? Well I explained when we came back when I actually started I Finally just decided hey we've got to start getting something out if we're gonna keep doing this or just shut it down. Um.

01:13.73
Jamie
Where where's he at would you do with him.

01:29.13
gunterman
But so I explained we had been. We had both had super crazy years me finishing up a master's moving to a different state and you you going back to school as well and I know you've been I Know you've been up to your eyeballs and that.

01:41.13
Jamie
And supposedly this this last semester that I just finished was the worst one of my degree. So hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on out.

01:51.00
gunterman
There you go? Well you know I think I remember from high school that they told us that about our like Junior year I Also got that in college in both times the senior year was just as bad I I don't know if it was for you but like I was I was like in high school I was still taking those. You know we were at a small school so we didn't have a lot of options but the advanced classes or you know whatever the case may be physics or what I have advanced math I don't remember what I had.

02:19.47
Jamie
Yeah, the the only advanced class I took was was math because I was like yeah I don't really need these for scholarships already was already set and which I'm glad I took that semester of advanced math because that's all college algebra was so I was like all done and.

02:34.70
gunterman
Running? yeah.

02:39.40
Jamie
My college I were class I took at the local community college with a bunch of ah people who'd graduated like 1015 years before and yeah, we're hadn't done math in a while and I'm just like they're rattling off the answers and they're just looking at me like hatn't roed anything down and I'm like yeah x is too.

02:59.70
gunterman
Ah, you, you've always had a good memory though you will bring up stuff that you'd say hey you remember when and I've got like nothing up here about it. You know there's there's nothing happened nothing rattling around nothing kind of on the tip. No, it's not there. But you remember it? yeah.

02:58.15
Jamie
How'd you get that I just.

03:15.70
Jamie
It's no surprise that there's nothing up there.

03:17.26
gunterman
I yeah, we're not butre not breaking any news anyone I don't think I'll tell you talking about ah finding x that my my wife is going to take the cpa exam and today she asked me about an equation you know finding x and something and I'd like I stared at it for like a minute. And then I just handed it back to her like I've got nothing I don't I don't know you know I don't know what it is or how to find it so sorry.

03:41.31
Jamie
Yeah, anytime the the kids need help with math. My wife's like ah you're you're gonna go have that Jamie you know like go go ask him. He's course I helped her through college algebra too. So it's like.

03:52.18
gunterman
Well at least I Well the thing was I told my wife I said you know what? and I've never needed it since I left school so you know I don't I don't know what that says but you know I just haven't needed that.

04:07.18
Jamie
Yeah, it it doesn't come up. You know too much at the grocery store. Whatever like I need £30 of this to equal £15 of this waterme and it just really doesn't then't come into play too much.

04:25.21
gunterman
That's right, Yeah, we're we're not changing changing different units of measure or anything like that. Hopefully.

04:30.19
Jamie
I don't need to find the circumference of this eight inch cake oh it's it's eight inches

04:35.47
gunterman
Though you thought about it I know trying to trying to save a buck. Well how big is the cir comfortforts on that thing sir. Well actually I can tell you how to find out right now.

04:49.52
Jamie
Let me tell you about a guy named Pytharean and his theorem.

04:56.60
gunterman
Pythagoras yeah let's talk and so that's what today's episode is about is this pythagorean theorem welcome everyone to the fanatic life podcast and Jamie's love of math that what a day. Well I'll tell you what? Um, it was a little disturbing when you and I finally decided that you know you could make it to this this episode and we could line that out because I think the first thing you said to me was you wanted to kind of at least do a devil's advocate or rebuttal of my take on Cincinnati which is. Okay, we're going to start off with fireworks but ah so at least you've been listening as I've done these solo shows and and before you just lay in into me. Let's remind everyone. What I said last week does or did Cincinnati belong in that game with Alabama. I say absolutely not and I'll ah I'll explain why.

06:28.84
gunterman
Well there you go. Those were my words and I still stand by them today and I just want to hear what you have to say about that Jamie Tipton

06:39.29
Jamie
Well, it's not so much that I disagree with your take on Cincinnati excuse me but my take is more of a who else deserved to be there. You have the number 5 team at wasn't a one lost Notre Dame team their one loss too was to that Cincinnati team and then you just had a whole slew of 2 lost teams and yeah, you might have had a better matchup with like an Ohio state or maybe even Oklahoma state or Baylor. But you had all these people at Cincinnati going. Well we were undefeated. Why didn't we get our shot. This is more of okay, you got your shot. This is what happened you know it's instead of having that situation like you had with you Ucf few years back where they went 13 and oh and. Claimed to be national champions. You don't have that with Cincinnati now Cincinnati got to play with the big boys and you know they got beat by Alabama which in my opinion, there's a significant drop off from. Alabama and Georgia to the rest of the top 10 so to to me if you'd to substituted any other team in there with Cincinnati it more than likely would have been the same outcome so given Cincinnati their shot.

07:59.25
gunterman
Oh absolutely. Absolutely.

08:13.83
Jamie
They did have a good season. They did beat 2 top 25 teams whether you know it was Notre Dame in Houston which Houston normally has a pretty good pretty good team you know regardless of that they're a group of 5 which I mean Houston and Cincinnati are gonna be in big 12 and what a year 2 which that's not saying too much because it's the the big 12 right? Which the only other team I would have thought you probably could have if Oklahoma state I think if they would have beaten Baylor in the big 12 championship game.

08:36.98
gunterman
It's the big 12 without Oklahoma and Texas too I mean.

08:51.95
gunterman
Yeah, yeah I think so yeah.

08:50.98
Jamie
You'd had Oklahoma state versus Alabama that's my take but still I think it would have been it probably been the same score if not worse.

09:02.29
gunterman
Right? And and I think that's probably the the important thing here is how do you define you know, did they belong. How do you define you know? ah you know who played there because I agree and I said that in that episode that you know I don't think it matters because. Anyone else would have done the same thing I I can't think of any team that would have been competitive there I'm I'm just glad that it was the semifinal game so Georgia and Alabama have to play each other you know for the the finals because you know say if Michigan and Cincinnati would have played for. For the semifinals then whoever won out of Alabama and Georgia had an easy game and so it's it's one of those things where art. Well how are you defining whether they should have been there whether they you know made the case and so what what you're saying is exactly right and is my thoughts too that it wouldn't have changed anything. So this is how I look at it. So after I I posted that episode I started looking around and I was particularly interested in seeing kind of what Cincinnati people thought so I was listening to some podcasts there and I came across an Andy staples I never listened to him before. A podcast with Ari Wasserman and Ari was talking the same I mean they made the same show I made basically and I'm sure a bunch of people did all over the country because you're reacting to to what you just saw but he he threw out this stat now he he said Cincinnati belongs and he said that. But he also said he talked about the drop off that you just ah talked about as well and so he pulled the stats on it. So from the year two thousand on only 3 teams have won the national championship game that didn't have a. A top 5 signing class in the last four years and that might have been. He might even even said top 3 I think he said top 5 signing class and the three that did had top 10 signing classes and so here are the 3 that were the outliers Clemson with the Sean Watson you had Auburn with Cam Newton and then you had Clemson again with Trevor Lawrence and again all top 10 you know, very highly recruiting. You know, ah and everything so when I look at this and say hey to Cincinnati should Cincinnati have played in this game. I say no from a standpoint of did they play a schedule hard enough. Did they show that they belong in this and I'll just I'll just tell you this right now. So if we go back to 2017. We'll just go back. 2017 since we've had a covid year. We've had super seniors and all that good stuff.

11:49.12
gunterman
This is where Cincinnati has recruited in 17 they were sixty third in eighteen Forty Ninth nineteen sixty sixth in 2020 they were forty first and in 2021 they were forty fifth now listen listen where they were in the a ac first first second first third. So you know you have ah you have a team there that that is recruited better than anyone in their conference and so they come out of that conference with no losses. Ah, but you know they're still. They're not nearly on the level of well. A lot of the teams that could have been in there like ah even like an Oklahoma state and who like you said if they would have won would have probably played that game and again to me that doesn't change anything it even like I said on the episode. It doesn't change anything as far as cinnnnati could have had the perfect day. And they could have won you know because we see that all the time in sports if you think back to I think it was twenty twelve 2014 somewhere in there Oklahoma played against Alabama and I just knew Alabama is going to run all over them like they always do Oklahoma had a a quarterback and it was named Trevor Knight he was about I think career he was a 55% passer that is terrible that is not that is not an accurate passer for college you know much less. The pros. Well the night they played Alabama he was. On it. He threw I think is is stats at the end of the game was he was 73% accurate I mean everything he threw was dropping you know right? where it needed to which wasn't him and so all the time in sports we see upsets we root for him, you know during basically March madness and things like that. And I look at Cincinnati and say yeah, you could have won you know anybody could have gotten their shot and I think that's kind of the the way you're approaching it kind of saying hey they got their shot and we kind of see what they did now. But when I look at it I say well man you haven't recruited you know even in the even in the top 30 in a year you know you didn't play anyone your your signature win is Notre Dame who didn't beat anyone and that I record the podcast before they played their bowl game now you can argue about whether bowl games mean anything anymore other than the the semifinals and finals. But so Notre Dame played 2 ranked teams this year and they lost both of them one to Cincinnati and then one to. Um, Oklahoma state and so your your your signature win there. That's real questionable too and so I could have gone on a ah rant about Notre Dame and and how they get put up there highly? Ah, but but I didn't I left that out just saying you know listen I'm not sure how good they were. But.

14:28.60
Jamie
Yeah, Notre Dame notre dame to me is one of the more overrated schools. Um not taking away anything from the program like in the 90 s they were 1 of the dominant. Programs I mean but they have I think being out of a conference has hurt them more than it has helped them if they were to join the big 10 or the acc I think you would probably see notre dames.

15:03.73
gunterman
And.

15:03.90
Jamie
Prestige rise which you know acc needs all the help they can get you know Florida state and Miami can ever get things on track I mean that would be a another conference that you would have that would be producing 2 to 3 good teams each year you know kind of like the big 10 and the scc does I'm not sure what's going out west in the pack 12 ah big 12.

15:28.91
gunterman
I don't think they do either. Well let me let me just you this and I'll I'll just say something about Notre Dame you know the the thing in the and the 90 s at least was they had the deal with wasn't it Nbc. Ah.

15:40.32
Jamie
Ah, they I think they still have that deal with Nbc right? yeah.

15:43.56
gunterman
Okay, well there you go and and so it was like we don't need to split money with anyone you know so it's kind of that push you know, whereas you know now conferences are getting paid especially like thecc and so there wasn't that much incentive. But I agree completely with you. They need to be in a conference and I'm gonna show you something real quick right. Can you see that and I know you guys can't see that but in the in the last ten major bowl games that Notre Dame has played in so we're talking about their last ten bcs slash new year six games they are onten. They're like last major bowl win. You know, however, the sporting news is who posted this the last major bowl win was the 1994 Cotton bowl that's reaching way back. What were we doing in 94 I think I think we kind of covered that in our our summer issue of of all the baseball movies we watched. Ah, but but yeah I mean you just have to ask all right? Well why is notre dame up there to begin with and and that's part of the problem is because just like I kept using the example of Louisiana not Lsu Louisiana and even ut San Antonio creeping in. The the top 25 for why? No reason at all, they're terrible. Don't belong in the top 50 I don't care what the record is you know they're not the top in the top 25 but notre dame because they're Notre Dame and even when they don't beat anyone. You know they end up up there and so. So part of the decision was like you said who's getting who's getting in and you have Notre Dame sitting there which I think they were the next in right when it number 5 and so obviously you put Cincinnati in because they they beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame but Notre Dame shouldn't have been up there either.

17:22.73
Jamie
Yeah, they were number 5

17:32.47
Jamie
Right? And back to Louisiana I think they finished the season with one loss I'm not sure about their ball game and 1 their one I believe their one loss was to Texas like the first game of the year like

17:46.33
gunterman
Was it that. And oh yeah, that's right, that's that is right because because we played them Arkansas versus Texas and they were kind of holding onto that you know hey we beat a ring to Louisiana team and Texas ended up. You know, not as good as everyone thought either. So you know you can't you can't.

17:50.40
Jamie
They were both ranked in Texas.

17:56.81
Jamie
The the other.

18:10.19
gunterman
Transfer all of these you know hey they scored this against this person or did this I mean you just can't do that in sports. But it's just you just got to be I don't know logical is what I want to keep thinking of but you would think at at this point we would kind of like be more serious about the top 25 because again. That impacts the end of the year oh let's let you little you t San Antonio get in the top 25 for a little bit and and then somebody beats them. Oh they beat a top 25 team. Well no, no, they did not but we had them ranked there for some reason.

18:39.97
Jamie
Yeah I think the the go to should be like the Espn does it the the football power index which they take into account strength the schedule quality wins quality losses.

18:49.70
gunterman
Yeah.

18:57.25
Jamie
You know because I mean Arkansas lost 4 games this year Three of those 4 games were top 10 teams Ole Miss Alabama and Georgia now that fourth lost Auburn well know.

19:06.70
gunterman
Yeah, yeah.

19:15.70
gunterman
Yeah, well that was that was following was that following the Alabama game or the oh miss. That's right, it played played a hard Ole Miss game lost by 1 went for 2 didn't get it there and I understand from. Ah.

19:15.77
Jamie
Everybody has by day.

19:22.21
Jamie
I Think it was following the old Miss game.

19:35.66
gunterman
Hearing some Arkansas sports that ah Kj Jefferson was was kind of banged up in that game in the auburn game after you know playing so hard against old miss and I mean of course you have that stuff week in and week out and what what kills me though is you know every time we want to make a point. It's like oh we beat Alabama oh people could say they were out. Well. They were. You know they had the quarterback starting running back and top wide receiver out but we beat them. You know it's kind of like we can brush everything you know under the rug if it benefits our team just like at the end of the game I'm sure you've noticed this that you know if you lose you know you beat yourself. They didn't beat you. You know most of the time. Yeah, ah an interception thrown is our quarterback through a bad pass. Not the defensive back made a good play ever. You know it's always because we have that you know feeling of I want control and so we we just never can let that go. It's always something we could have corrected. And you know we can look at it just from one one angle. But yeah I don't know I don't know about about all that and and what you're saying there is is Arkansas lost a you know 3 top 10 teams and again, that's what I'm talking about with Cincinnati I mean if if the voters or whoever's doing all this don't put. Notre Dame at the top. They've got absolutely nothing and and no other wins. No other good wins unless unless you're counting Houston again and that's kind of the same deal for me.

21:02.98
Jamie
And I mean that's a maybe not a good win but a decent win. You know it's kind of a okay they're they're decent program. They've they've come up and I mean they're probably 1 of the better group of 5 teams out there. But yeah, if you to take in. You know.

21:09.92
gunterman
Yeah.

21:22.69
Jamie
A 7 and 5 or 8 and 14 out of the SEC or the big 10 and stuck them in conference Usa or what that american athletic conference whichever one there and I can't remember a Ac but ah, they probably would have been undefeated as well.

21:31.76
gunterman
You a ac yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely and that's the deal is you know? are we just going to reward programs for you know like a Notre Dame who choose not to be in a conference or you have ah again, we've already said that that Cincinnati's moving ah to the big 12 but I mean. They're playing in a terrible conference that is just you know, no just no talent over there. You know compared I'm not I'm gonna say nobody has any skill they had some I think they had some really good like cornerbacks and stuff they were they soft gardener and.

22:07.64
Jamie
Yeah, yeah, not taking Cincinnati had Cincinnati had a a good team and probably would have been. You know if they'd played you know in a lower ti bowl game. You know they might have won it. You know? Heck if they'd played. Arkansas that blackbo that might have been a better game. It later played Texas stick instead of Mississippi state they may have won that game. You know it's and just a lot of what ifs and sports. But I mean like I said I didn't have an issue with Cincinnati being there.

22:34.87
gunterman
Right.

22:44.49
Jamie
Just because it's like well who else you gonna put there and then you also factor in the fact that you don't have to hear Well we were undefeated.

22:45.54
gunterman
Oh absolutely.

22:52.14
gunterman
Yeah, that is annoying I was kind of glad that's not the case this time. But yeah, yeah here it is.

22:58.89
Jamie
It's like okay here's your shot do with it what you can and if they'd have been out if they would have beat Alabama I'd probably been on the Cincinnati bandwagon train like yeah, let's win this national championship come on guys.

23:09.35
gunterman
Yeah don't get me wrong I'm I'm all for Alabama not being there year in and year out but again we have to face them in conference in division in conference and so I just I hate it for you know if if some teams are kind of getting the easy way and then what what kills me is. Is really the the comments from those same teams looking at at our schedules and saying they just don't play anybody like in Alabama you know there like because because of what because of we have a 6 and six seven and five you know win loss record is that is that it because we're playing a whole lot. You know, better quality higher ranked recruiting classes I think auburn pulled in even this year I think they pulled in like the thirteenth best class in the nation and they were sixth in the scc and that's nuts. And so and that's why you see in thecc any you know in sports in general people can jump up and get you any any week. You know any game. That's why you see an se in the scc. Well they have the skill to do it now. Whether or not they've put it all together. You know as a complete package throughout the season. That's 1 thing but they absolutely have the skill. Jump up and and make things go their way and so that's what we face week in and week out where some of these places just don't and um, ah, again, don't want to talk like Cincinnati had no talent. They do I think sauce gardener I think the the stat on him was. He yeah I think he started as a freshman. He never gave up a touchdown in his whole career. There. It's just amazing. You know and Alabama didn't have to throw I think they threw at him like 3 times or something and nothing nothing came out of it but Alabama I think could have just run every play and still won that game. That's that's what it looked like felt like anyway. But. But yeah I agree with you, you know who else you're gonna put in there and I said if we'd been on the podcast you heard this and I could have backed it up and instead of you just you know saying? Yeah I don't believe you John but I said the first of this year it was gonna be a little kooky in college football because of super seniors. Because that's what that's what a lot of these these teams need that don't recruit like in Alabama I think that's part of the reason you saw Alabama have just kind of a up and down year. They still you know did what they did but they you know they were kind of more up and down than they normally are they lose all these guys at the draft and you know they. Always turn to these other 5 stars that they have loaded up but this year they're turning to young 5 stars who are playing against you know fifth year seniors and so I mean just all over the book. Yeah, exactly and so you've got all this and we know that you know as you.

25:39.27
Jamie
Sunday six and seventh your seniors.

25:48.18
gunterman
As you play you, you're talking about all. Well how many people on the ah offensive line are so are sophomores freshmen. You know do we have an older ah offensive line defensive line and so that means a lot and I thought it be a little goofy and I think that's what you kind of saw at the end of the year is kind of like everybody's raising their hands going I don't know I don't know do with all all this mess. How do we? How do we interpret this stuff. So yeah I would like to see like a power index or something of course what was the system we had before this one it was it was just a Bcs. Well you know where they had the computer and all that good stuff and you're like well how do you How do you fit all this and I think still then.

26:14.15
Jamie
The b CS yeah

26:27.18
gunterman
There was like a lot of weight as to the ranking and the ranking is still subject to all right? Well are we really good. Yeah are are we are we still just kind of putting people in there and like I I mentioned last week with the Boise state thing they ended up at.

26:31.15
Jamie
Opinion.

26:42.36
gunterman
The end of the year and the top 25 and the only team they played was Arkansas and they got slaughtered but you know you you come in with one loss and man they must be good if we could do away with that kind of goofy thinking I think we we'd have something but I don't know it just kind of just kind of gets under my skin. For two weeks in a row apparently thanks Jamie it's and he's back. Well we we also want to talk about something that happened recently John Madden passed away December Twenty Eighth and for a lot of us.

27:01.65
Jamie
You're welcome. That's what I'm here for.

27:16.36
gunterman
Probably listening right now you never saw John Madden as a coach. You only knew him is maybe as a broadcaster Pat summerall and and he did a lot of stuff together that was that was a lot of fun. Good Pat Summerro with his John and I you know just like that. But. But you know for most of us it. It was the Madden video game that that we knew of him but just just for a second I want to kind of go over some things that that Madden did just in his his career Madden at the time leaves 1969 he was the the youngest coach ever to coach an Nfl team he was 32 years old which is which is fantastic but you probably heard the stat when everyone was talking about him that he has the best winning percentage of coaches who have coached in at least 100 games and I think that was like a 70% I don't know something like that it was I mean it was really good.

28:09.83
Jamie
Yeah, he it was like a hundred and three wins to yeah, it was. It was yeah a tie.

28:18.10
gunterman
It's pretty good. A hundred. It seems like it was 103 to 32 and like a couple of ti and something. Yeah, and so I mean he he had a really good coaching career now it wasn't that long but he he I'll just tell you this. They they instantly went to the playoffs when he took over and I believe it was the second time they got into it so they they they played and they got into the playoffs a lot but they I think the stat is let me see if I can find it here. They lost. Like 5 ac championship games or something like and like they just they kept getting is is almost like the the bills you know getting to getting to the super bowl and and they kept kept losing I think it was his second time he got got into and and was kind of going a. Going in there pretty well yeah, it was the second time they were playing the Steelers and they're up in the like last 15 seconds of the game 7 to 6 and the Steelers with Terry Bradshaw throws a pass down the field. It gets kind of knocked in the air and then a freshman. Full or a freshman rookie fullback of the name of frank o' Harris makes what is known now as the immaculate reception. So it bounces off these 2 guys frank o' Harris Catches it runs it into the end zone with 5 seconds left and and they lose that game and so Madden I didn't realize was a part of that game as well. And and such a and I mean they were they were tearing it up in the the regular season I mean they were coming in like 12 and 132. Whatever whatever they were playing at the time and but just just having some bad luck there and I think I know you remember the immaculate reception. Ah, but that was just do you remember anything about I mean Madden quit coaching before we were ever born.

30:10.77
Jamie
Yeah, yeah, he was he was out of a coaching carousel long before we were ever a thought? Um, but I mean just the way he coached like the teams he coached he like.

30:17.90
gunterman
Yeah.

30:29.52
Jamie
He personified that braider Mentality. You know he was ah he I think he was the players love playing for him because he he wasn't going to like just jump down your throat but he gonna get you when he he needed to but you know he was. He wasn't the coach that was like oh you've got to show up to the game suit and Tie. He's like no you show up and play your butt off and we're good. You know he was that kind of Coach. What people would call like a player's Coach. He was a player's Coach. You know he didn't Care. You know if the players showed up and.

30:54.66
gunterman
Right? right.

31:07.80
Jamie
Shorts and flip-flopps and cutoff t-shirt as long as they were there and gave it a hundred and ten percent he was good with them.

31:13.76
gunterman
Yeah, that was and I'll tell you 1 thing I didn't know that kind of came out of you know as I watched some of those tributes and information on Madden I didn't realize he had he had been drafted so he gets he gets drafted and hurts his knee the first year and so that's what puts him into coaching in the first place. And so he's he's a bit. He's a big guy I think he coaches San Diego state as well. He ends up, you know coaching is coaching the raiders and coaches them for I don't know 9 years something like that night yeah was it Tim? Well he I know he finished up in in 78 but they did.

31:41.10
Jamie
I think was T n.

31:48.61
gunterman
Did get a ah ah super bowl in there as well. So and then of course goes over to to broadcasting and him and him and Pat summerall you've got Pat summerall I won't do the the impression again. But you've got madden up it up there doing the teletrator and yelling boom you know when people get hit and everything else and so. It was entertaining. It was it was interesting and if you've never listed them if you're young enough that you never heard them. It'd be interesting going Youtube and and hear them do a little bit but I think for us, it's just been the madden football game. It's it's been you know football game except for two k who everybody really likes to talk about but Madden has been the name in football for ever and so we still to this day though this year I did buy it and played it like once. So.

32:31.60
Jamie
Grab.

32:40.67
gunterman
Wasn't that fun. What do you remember playing about the Madden football games.

32:42.87
Jamie
Oh just the the commentary you know him and him and Pat summer all which interesting little tidbit Pat summer all his name was not pat it. His name was George Georgia Allen some all he got the nickname Pat when he.

32:53.55
gunterman
What was it.

33:02.58
Jamie
Believe when he was playing at the he was a kicker at the University Of Arkansas and they called him Pat because he was money p a t.

33:09.19
gunterman
Oh my goodness see how didn't you know that an Arkansas fan and Jamie just Jamie just pulls it up now. His family was more tied into what the razorbacks had done. My dad actually went to the university of Arkansas and he could have. I don't know if he could have cared less but but there was never any talk of old games or anything like that. So but I had again I had to go to Jamie's house to even watch satellites. So you know we were. We were kind of you know out there in the dark. Well yeah I I remember and one of the most memorable things for me. Um, those madden games you remember in the old Madden when somebody would get hurt and every once in while the the ambulance would come out on the field. Yeah, just so somebody's down on the field and you know oh man they got hurt and I was in the ambulance you see this ambulance in this I don't know what it was on the Sega or something you know little.

33:48.42
Jamie
Drive. Overall.

33:57.94
Jamie
As at saga or super Nintendo is 1 of the 2

34:02.47
gunterman
Low bit you know game console and all of a sudden you have this ambulance you know, kind of drive out on the field knock other players down as it's driving which is so funny and and by the way that just kind of reminds me. It had to been a madden I would think ah. Was it you or yes, Yes, yeah you I knew it you So Okay, okay I was gonna so we're Playing. We're playing this football game and all of a sudden. We get a penalty and it says given him the business.

34:21.10
Jamie
Well I wasn't it I think it was Seth I remember y'all tell him the story.

34:36.26
gunterman
And I just died laughing I thought man I have dreamed this something but but Seth and I and had to been Seth and if it wasn't you Seth and I heard this and so I did not know that that was I an iconic call from a referee who. I think they had all piled up and somebody was punching somebody else or who knows what and you know you hear all kinds of things about what happens under those piles but the only thing he could think to say was giving him the business and so they even put that in the game and so I just love that kind of stuff I wish they would slip. More of that in in nowadays.

35:11.10
Jamie
Yeah, it was I've never never seen it but I I want to say it's I've looked it up online and like it's happened to other people. So it's the.

35:21.87
gunterman
Well I'm I'm glad I was a part of that. Yeah we I mean because before Madden I mean you and I played some stuff was it on Nintendo or super Nintendo that you'd roll back and you know all the numbers were blur I mean you couldn't tell who the number was what you'd throw a pass and it and it looked like a. Punt but you were zoomed in on the punt and you had no idea where it was going or if anybody was out there. Yeah yeah.

35:44.60
Jamie
As I think you're referring to a super techmo bowl on the super nintendo as one of those where you could get a touchback and do like this one of the shotgun plays where you had like a go route. You could drop back all the way until you're in zone. Wait just a few seconds and throw the ball like a hundred yards down the field like if that receiver was still running. You would throw it as far as he was running. There was no throw power throw accuracy. It was just hoop. There. It went.

36:06.15
gunterman
Yes, sir. Yeah.

36:20.19
gunterman
Well I'm not gonna lie my brother fad. He he did that on a lot more modern games than that like every every pass he would throw his quarterback was running as far you know as fast backwards as he could run but they still hadn't you know, fixed it to where that affected your. Accuracy so he would do that he would annoy the dog out of me so he'd about get sacked. He's run spreading backwards turns around chunks it you know hits a guy in the fingertips for a catch every time I like dude like there's no way that would work and he would just say hey it worked. That's that's a good play so just drove me Nuts. But.

36:55.37
Jamie
Yeah, yeah, there was now. Yeah we had a buddy I I think it was NCAO 5 he you know hed get usc course. That's the year they had you know liner and Bush and what's it look.

36:58.87
gunterman
I Don't think you can do that anymore.

37:14.14
Jamie
Window wide or whatever the other running back and he would just line up and go line and hand the ball off and like you could not like you pretty much you had to just like all out Blitz on every play to even.

37:17.50
gunterman
Yep.

37:21.80
gunterman
Ah, yeah, yeah.

37:31.59
gunterman
Yeah, ah well he should have to vacate those wins I mean because is Reggie Bush got paid and he got found out. So.

37:30.78
Jamie
And he would still break it. You know it's just like this ain't even right? you know.

37:41.58
Jamie
Right? Yeah, his his football playing video game playing career wasn't wasn't long. Yeah I pretty much was just that 1 game and it was and it was always I got usc here. We go again.

37:51.90
gunterman
I okay, ah see and that takes me back to the Cincinnati thing you know I mean all of a sudden hey we're gonna play I'm going to play a Cincinnati well I'll play as. I'll play is the all Madden team I'll play as um, oh what is that fair? No It's not fair I don't I don't think it ever made it the episode I recorded last weekss a couple of times I wasn't happy with it wasn't happy how it flowed I felt kind of clunky and one the things I talked about you, you remind me if if I actually said it in the episode. But. I have no idea whether Nick Sabins a good coach because he has the best talent year in and year out and so it's just one of those things where oh my goodness I mean even when when I saw an interview with Jalen Herz who he was a quarterback for Alabama you know had to a tango viloa there as well. Jalen ends up and he's like man I want to play quarterback I've got a transfer and so he has a conversation with Nick Abin and Nick tells him you need to go somewhere with the best players. Well you know there's no mystery to that we we know it but I have you know Nick Saben's going to go down as the best college football coach ever. And I don't know whether he is or not I just know it's that I just know Chad Morris isn't by the way.

39:10.61
Jamie
He's he he he he I don't even know if he's a good high school coach but ah, not speaking of a old Madden team back to John Madden I have seen um some suggestions online that. The all-pro team that the Nfl announces every year should be called the Almaden team.

39:34.30
gunterman
See that'd be awesome for all that for all that he's done for the game. Oh yeah.

39:38.59
Jamie
Right? Lee I don't know that also brings me to the you hear about Deshan Jackson no no ah de Sean Jackson he's up.

39:48.27
gunterman
Deshawn Jackson Deshawn Watson oh yeah the what receiver.

39:54.98
Jamie
Wide receiver for the raiders had like some custom cleats made you know honoring John Madden in the Nfl made him take them off before the game said he could not wear those and I understand it's it's against the rule. But. You could overlooked it for 1 game. That's that's that's my opinion. It's like a you know what should just say out hey if you'll want to do something to honor Madden this week have at it I mean that would but.

40:23.97
gunterman
I see and I I don't understand that rule though because you know that comes up every once in a while like I need to look I didn't ever look to see if he did it. But I think Alvin Kamara posted something about wearing some cleats and he said you know what? if they find me I'll match it and send it to charity or something.

40:38.99
Jamie
Yeah, oh I think it was like every year I think he wears like Christmas Cleats you know have I think so.

40:45.14
gunterman
I Yeah did he do it. Okay I saw that he was going to I Just never never saw anything else about it I.

40:53.20
Jamie
But yeah I don't know why does Sean Jackson didn't why they didn't let him do it. But.

40:59.73
gunterman
Right? Well, that's what I don't understand about it I don't I don't understand you know if there's something obscene or something but my goodness you know, let them.

41:06.27
Jamie
Yeah I don't even think it was I've it. Yeah I've I've got a picture of it here.

41:13.44
gunterman
I Would think you could set up some rules about you know, hey you know, no political things or you know something like that.

41:19.10
Jamie
Right? Which I mean that I think they've already have those because they do it once a week or not once a week once one week out of the year um where they allow the players wear custom cleats and like proceeds go to the charity of their choice or whatever and that's kind of.

41:31.80
gunterman
Oh see I didn't know that.

41:37.97
Jamie
But now these were we these were like all black cleats with like a white toe and it just said John Madden on the side and 1936 to 2021. You know that's all it was there. There was nothing flashy about them. There was nothing just outrageous I mean they're even in the color scheme for the uniform. You know it's not like they were just outrageous. These you know gold plated or anything like that. They're just plain black cleats with like a ah wider silver toe nope took them off right.

42:16.76
gunterman
I but he didn't he didn't end up wearing them right? man see that's crazy I don't know I just I don't get some of those things. Maybe maybe there's something else that I don't think of but I don't know something like that where I mean you're talking about. You're talking about elevating the brand I mean and and pointing to people that have done that with with Madden I I just don't get that. Especially if you're pointing inward somebody should write Nfl on their cleats and you see you'll see if they do they find him national football I love the Nfl or the national football league fine.

42:44.45
Jamie
Right? I mean.

42:53.53
Jamie
They probably would. That's that's just some of the the stupid things that the Nfl does I mean it's just some of the things you're like scratching your head over. You're like this doesn't make a lot of sense and like like you're saying.

42:54.99
gunterman
Okay, so.

43:12.29
Jamie
Madden was an ambassador for this sport for most of our life I mean he was in that broadcast booth I don't know how many sundays you know? yeah and I mean he what he.

43:17.85
gunterman
And.

43:24.45
gunterman
Right? cause he finished coaching in 78

43:31.58
gunterman
I Huh it is.

43:31.76
Jamie
Pretty much made the jump instantly. So I mean he was there all our life for the most part I mean I know he retired what a few years back. But I mean the Madden game. How much popularity has that brought the leak.

43:38.51
gunterman
And.

43:47.84
gunterman
Exactly.

43:50.20
Jamie
I Mean that's where I learned the majority about how to play football was the Madden games was those games on genesis and on up through. But yeah I don't I don't know why you couldn't have.

43:54.66
gunterman
Yeah, me too.

44:08.42
gunterman
Exactly trying to honor Madden. Yeah, he was an ambassador of the game and ground travel. No no airplanes I always thought that was interesting as they showed the the maddened bus or whatever. Yeah.

44:07.44
Jamie
Turned a blind eye. You know like up didn't see those.

44:20.45
Jamie
And that is like actually 1 of the reasons why he got out of coaching he he he got tired of traveling by plane. He just.

44:26.65
gunterman
I oh really I read that it was like he said 1 time he'd had a panic attack and and then it was more about just being claustrophobic as much as anything and some of those plans some of those planes are much more claustrophoic. Thank you feel a lot more.

44:37.71
Jamie
Yeah, yeah heat. And and we're talking about in this is in the late 70 s as well too. You know I'm sure Air travel has been upgraded since then you know, but and it was it was just because that it was more and more.

44:44.80
gunterman
Claustrophobic than others. And. Yeah I Hope so.

45:02.00
Jamie
The league was expanding. You know you, you're having more travel across country and he was just like you know what? I'll just ah I'll ride him a bus.

45:10.59
gunterman
I wonder what the chances are that Madden was playing his own video game in the bus I mean that's that's a baller move right? there.

45:18.58
Jamie
Oh I'm I'm sure it was probably in the bus Now how much he played it I don't know.

45:25.43
gunterman
Ah I tell you you know if I would have been summerall or whoever you know Al Michaels later on you know, doing doing the broadcast with him you know I respect what he wanted to do there but I would probably call him when I got home every time after my flights like hey John where are you? Well i'm. I'm still about 7 states away. Okay, you don't like it. You don't like it. Yeah, you didn't care and he did his thing. It has a lot of fun and it was cool to see some of the older videos. You know where he's he's doing doing things because it has been a while.

45:46.24
Jamie
How but that he didn' care.

46:02.78
gunterman
Blink and you know we hear this growing up time time goes fast and now I'm trying to tell my kids that and when I blink next they'll be telling their their kids that so it just it just happens one of the things happening right now in theaters now is Spiderman. No way home now we are not going to give any spoilers about this so you don't have to hopefully you don't have to turn anything off I will edit it out. How about that. So so no worries here. Jamie had told me he wanted to talk about it and so I was like man I haven't even seen it yet. So my wife and I had a little date to go see it and. I'll tell you one of the things Jamie that I was pleasantly surprised because there's a there's a movie theater a show biz movie theater 10 minutes from me and I haven't been I've lived here since July and I have not been and I just kind of had this bet. It's not great. You know, kind of feel to it. You know, just a thought in my mind. And it is fantastic. So it's got It's got the you know reserve your seat. It's got the big plush seats. Only thing it doesn't have are the reclining seats. So. It's super wide and I'm a big guy so I appreciate that. But it's super even super wide for me and it can lean back and there's way more leg room than you even need. And it's just amazing. So the the actually the theater we set in had the I think it's the sdx sound where you've got the dolby atmost so you've got big speakers all along the wall in the front on the ceiling on the back of the wall you know, facing back. So you're getting. You're able to get sound from everywhere and it was just. Just just from that standpoint was a fantastic day now I'll talk about the movie just second but it made me it made me remember I took I took a youth group so in my last church I worked a lot with some youth and we went to one up in Benton Arkansas in and so I've got a bunch of of youth kids teenagers and all during the movie. It was one It's one of those places where you can sit. You can recline. You can order food all during the movie which is awesome by the way but they kept bringing the food or drink to the wrong place they kept bringing it to my kids. From a different theater and it was always alcohol. So I don't know how many times I had to I had to tell of it and number 1 they're under age. They can't do this. You know, but I've got the I've got the youth group there and they keep trying to bring all um I guarantee you in 1 movie sitting it happened 5 times. It was comical. Um, he was like okay hold on hold on just to say let's let's talk about this but those those places are are fantastic. But I'll I'll let you you go first with what you want to say about Spiderman.

48:44.70
Jamie
I just I just wantt touch on the subject you bring home a bunch of kids you know had 3 or 4 drinks at a movie theater and you be having to explain that away like I don't know what happened.

48:54.16
gunterman
Ah, he took us there I thought it was all free and they kept bringing it so we just kept drinking it and.

49:00.55
Jamie
I had three myself.

49:04.33
gunterman
Yeah, don't look at me John's drunk too. Yeah yeah, that'd be wonderful. John's drunk and looking for a job ladies and gentlemen.

49:14.70
Jamie
Oh but yeah, back to the movie. Of course you know our theater has the the big plush recliners that you know the electricalliners those those are nice. Um I don't know how we ever watch movies in the old little flip down seats where you're like.

49:24.96
gunterman
Yeah.

49:31.89
gunterman
You see that that see that and that and telephones are are our generations walking in the in the snow both ways you know uphill to school you know I tell my tell my kids hey.

49:33.74
Jamie
Fighting fighting the guy over you know the armrest next to you or you know.

49:51.75
gunterman
When Daddy was young. All the phones were connected to the wall look at you like you're nuts. You know, like what? what were you all doing back then exactly.

49:55.35
Jamie
If you had a if you had a gord le phone you were uptown. Ah, but actually 1 of the theaters. There's 2 theaters here 1 of them actually still has it doesn't even have like the high back reclining seats. It's got the old stadium site style. Row of seats. You know which gosh I think that's one of the first movies I went and watched was with you I believe I think it was men in black one year and it was at that very theater and was like when it was brand new and we were like 12 so this theater is like.

50:29.25
gunterman
Right.

50:33.20
Jamie
Twenty Plus years old so yeah they haven't changed a thing I think it's still the same carpet and everything so there's no telling what all is going on there but ah Spiderman no way home. Ah.

50:39.83
gunterman
Ah.

50:51.20
Jamie
It delivered it. Ah, it lived up to the hype. It's probably up there probably top 3 of my favorite Marvel movies that have been produced course I'm I'm a Spiderman fan I like Spiderman I click. Butterman comics. You know so it it it it delivered without going into any detail. An amazing movie. Um, so yeah, go check it out.

51:24.85
gunterman
Well and and we heard that if you if you're a follower of the the heavy set podcast. We've got a couple of friends on that as well and and they said the same thing and and really that was my reminder to go see it because holidays are just nuts. Anyway. So I just forgotten about it really and so when they were talking about how how impactful it was and just go see it type of thing just like you said like okay I do need to go see this and then that's what I would say about this that you know a lot of a lot of Marvel movies. Especially if you're smart enough by now people to stay for the end credits. And see see you the the end scenes. Whatever they're setting up next a lot of times you walk out of there just with your kind of mind exploding on what what's coming up next or you know where are they going with this and I would say that is absolutely the case with this now this is not just the end in scenes for this movie but the whole movie. You kind of see a vision for their plans. what's going to happen not what's going to happen but kind of just a big picture of oh okay and I would just echo what Jamie said it is it is a great movie I I have been planning to to show my. Oldest son take him and so we actually have have tickets for tomorrow at twelve thirty so I'm gonna get to see it twice. Hopefully always when those movies are good like that I want to see a multiple times I want to kind of process that no.

52:50.25
Jamie
Yeah, you're not complaining about going and watching it again.

52:56.66
gunterman
And and he's gonna he's gonna love it as well and I know that um, we're not spoiling anything when we say Dr Stranges is the movie because he's on all the all the art for it and everything.

53:05.32
Jamie
Yeah, yeah, he's in a trailer. So if you don't know Dr Strange is in the movie. You've literally been under a rock.

53:11.62
gunterman
Yeah, that is not that is not a spoiler if you even look up Spiderman no way home. You're going to see Dr Strange but he's a big Dr Strange fan once we watch that one and so I think he's just gonna love it for that. But there's so many things that happen and and just kind of kind of get you bit like I said built up. Not only just enjoying this movie but just kind of trying to process what's coming next and and how they're gonna do this because you know after endgame you kind of wondered art. What do you do now? Yeah, you've got you got Captain America who's who's you know, given his shield away you had.

53:38.32
Jamie
Yeah, where do we go from here.

53:48.77
gunterman
Black widow who is now dead. Oh are we giving away end game sport one sorry the effect if you haven't listen if you haven't watched now you're you're not gonna watch and in your you're probably not even listening this podcast. You haven't watched that. Ah, but but anyway, yeah, exactly.

53:49.98
Jamie
Up Sp Swoer Alert Swoller Alert gasp.

54:02.65
Jamie
What are these 2 fat guys talking about. Ah.

54:07.67
gunterman
Hey I want to let me skip to this part of the episode. Oh my gracious they spoiled it for me. Um, but yeah I mean you just kind of like okay well here's the and I think they had a they kind of had a ah vision for it that was the end of what they what they talk about like that was the end of their their stuff.

54:21.88
Jamie
I was like like phase 4 Yeah.

54:26.94
gunterman
Yeah, yeah, that phase that's what they call them. Yeah there's the end of the phase and you're like well okay, well what happens what happens now. So but anyway this this kind of gets you tuned up for for what's in the works and and so again I would see exactly what Jamie said go watch it. Hey if you can find a ah good theater like Jamie's talking about go do that if you're in Arkansas I know you can get it in hot springs and Benton I don't know if texture canna is stepped up yet.

54:54.69
Jamie
Last time I was there it was still just the the high back reclining seats which there's nothing wrong with those? Yeah yes, can bear it. Yeah.

54:59.99
gunterman
Yeah, yeah, compared compared to rid of what we used to set on and by the time we get through telling this story. It will be like a broken down metal chair. You know in a greasy broken down metal chair.

55:14.93
Jamie
Mine Mine was a plastic chair with three legs. What are you talking about.

55:18.69
gunterman
In a smoke-filled room. Yeah and flashlights going by every every 5 minutes checking tickets. That's what it was yeah exactly we don't understand any of it but we watch movies that way.

55:26.52
Jamie
Cut covered with dirt and motor motor ole for some strange reasons.

55:36.92
gunterman
Yeah, so go go see that movie and and hopefully here soon enough we can be able to talk about spoilers I ah I do not want to spoil anything for anyone because to me that's that and that's why I had to go watch it quickly when Jamie said that I like oh yeah, it has been way too long I've let it go too long before something gets spoiled for me.

55:49.68
Jamie
He you? you've got two weeks I'm putting your lunk out down. You've got two weeks

55:56.10
gunterman
I got two weeks if you're listening to this Jamie Jamie saying two weeks and then it's coming out. No we'll ah we'll let that run for a while but I am looking forward to my my next stop in there tomorrow so we wanted to end the episode with the. I don't know I really enjoy this this segment when we talk about fan or flop and today we both have some fan things we want to talk about Jamie for a while and we haven't we haven't done the podcast for a long time but Jamie and I keep up even when we're not talking to each other this way. And Jamie for a while you have had a 3 d printer and every once in while you send me a picture of something you have made tell me about that.

56:40.35
Jamie
Well, it's a it's a 3 d printer and it and it it it prints things in 3 d.

56:43.73
gunterman
Thank you, thank wonderful and that's all the time we have for today.

56:51.94
Jamie
But no, it's um, what I have I have a cre reality end 3 ah version 2 which is kind of more your your what they refer to as a a hobbyist which I mean that's all all I am um. Basically if you don't know anything about 3 d printers. You got a big spol of plastic filament and it goes through the machine and basically you have a a file that tells the printer where to put this melted plastic. And then basically it you can make different things. Ah I've made it a pretty good size little spidterman emblem I've made Batman emblem. Um I've made a I got a little rack for my my headphones here also tired it so you can see it John right.

57:49.36
gunterman
Oh heck, yeah.

57:50.28
Jamie
There attached to the wall. Um, just little things here and there which I haven't really just dive just a whole lot into it. Um, just because I've been so busy and usually I've got a fight with it for about 20 minutes to get all of it. Set right? because it's they're very, they're not plug and play. It's something you've got to you've got to make sure your your bed is level and your nozzle is you know so far from the bed and it's it's there's a little bit of work of just even getting it.

58:29.15
gunterman
Well now now you're a fan of it and now I'm thinking about going and leaving up a random terrible review on one that sounds horrible, but but what you have made what I can see what everybody else can't is ah it looks pretty awesome and.

58:29.17
Jamie
2 print.

58:44.70
gunterman
And especially when you make functional things like that. That's awesome. So.

58:46.12
Jamie
Oh yeah, I've made a little ah got a little batman shelf bracket I'm fixing to make a couple more so I can gonna redo like my my funco to pop displays I'm gonna put them on that. Um. Made a couple of other things made a little. Bottle opener. Um for my wife like you know and the kids like mainly the kids cause they'd be like hey open this? Well they can just pop it on and gives them a little extra leverage to get that cap off where they're not.

59:09.71
gunterman
And.

59:26.14
Jamie
Buging us all the time to open this open this open this. So yeah.

59:27.62
gunterman
I Oh there you go That's cool. Well I don't know if I'll ever end up with one of those. Maybe when I don't know if I like ah if I could figure out a lot of things I would want to to make with it I would go after it now it does take a long time to print right.

59:42.50
Jamie
Ah, depends depends on the yeah, the size. Ah I'm fixing to try to undertake a a print that's going to take a while because I've got to print it in sections. Ah. I don't know when I'm going to get to that. But what I'm going to try to print is glam drink the the gandalf sword from lord of the rings and just the ah the hilt part. Ah the cross guard. Whatever you want to call it. Ah, just that piece is like an 8 hour print but I mean it's gonna be like it I I have to print it like at an angle on my print brit bed just to get it to fit so it's it's good. It's gonna be like and there's.

01:00:22.24
gunterman
Wow wow.

01:00:34.37
gunterman
Good grazing.

01:00:39.58
Jamie
Like little pins you print where you can like glue it all together and make a full size sword. So yeah, um, ah, that's I think that's the the biggest piece that takes the most time the others are probably. 4 to 5 hours I think what ah according to my the the program I use to what they call slice. It? Um, but yeah, it's I mean it's cool. You can make I've seen several different things that you can make there's a website you can go to called http://thingyverse.com and like it's a whole bunch of like free free files that you can download and then do what you need to do and make what you want to make one of the one of the kids there ah gonna print him a ah, a duck call. He's want a duck call so I can actually print that ah in even the read like for it. So it's pretty neat dwitch. That's what I I try I was trying to work on that yesterday but I couldn't get it to cooperate with me.

01:01:46.44
gunterman
That's awesome. Okay.

01:01:53.14
gunterman
I well I think I think what you need to do is once we once we cross into 10000 subscribers you can give away one of those swords that may be next week oh in about 10 years something like.

01:02:07.39
Jamie
Ah I'll ah I'll ah maybe I'll have one printed by them.

01:02:10.97
gunterman
Yeah, that's right, yeah, just the hilt of the sword is is 8 hours so the rest of it couple of couple of years. Be fantastic. So.

01:02:17.52
Jamie
Yeah, it's it's it's something I don't like to leave going while I'm not here because if it messes Yeah, it's melting plastic one and yeah because I mean the nozzle gets up to ah.

01:02:26.44
gunterman
Melting plastic and.

01:02:36.70
Jamie
°C which I'm not sure exactly what that is in fahrenheit but it's hot because I know like a ° is bowling so you know take bowling water and double it. That's how hot it is um and plus if it messes up and like it comes off the print bat or whatever and you're.

01:02:48.42
gunterman
Who.

01:02:55.89
Jamie
Just got a big heaping mess on your hands. Yeah, yeah, go to Youtube and just search for 3 d printer fails and you will see why I don't like to leave it. Unattended.

01:02:57.94
gunterman
I imagine.

01:03:06.62
gunterman
I and I'm gonna do that right? right? after we get finished with this that I have not seen those but I can only imagine what that what? that's like well you guys go get a 3 d printer. The 1 thing I wanted to talk about. Today is ah what I'm a fan of I just want to encourage you if you're a slow adopter go out and find a food truck now I'm kind of late to the party on this deal. You know I've seen people get excited about food trucks and and actually even in in rural southwest Arkansas where we moved from. Our favorite close to us hibachi place which is rare where we were anyway actually moved from a a brick and mortar into a oh he's showing me a picture right now that is crazy. Yeah, well they move from a brick and mortar into a food truck and so. They moved down to textxure kana and so my wife would when she would go down for for work at times she would bring back some of some of the food from that food truck. It was always fantastic but down here down here. We've got a ah lot of different options, especially the closer into Houston you go and when my my brother-in law visited me. he said man we've got a we need to he said I found a food truck I found a Taco truck we need to go and it was it was a lot of fun because we got there and they were just kind of like on their own time schedule. But everyone was already lined up and and being a taco truck I went well what is this? you know. And it was a lot of hispanic people lined up so that yeah we were both like yes this is gonna be good. You know because you you want to see you want to see the people that it's made for you know liking it and we just we had a lot of stuff even a beef tongue so I had never tried that before I thought hey let's be adventurous and so we did that. So. I told you guys last week. We'd been on vacation so when we were down there. We hit up another taco truck and it was wonderful as well. So look for a food truck get out and see if you can't can't find something awesome now I'm on the hunt for those things. My brother-in-law is always always looking for them. We we can actually eate a bunch of good food on that on that trip and I'll talk more about it later but that was that was one of the highlights was going to ah a food truck and getting some things and it's always the the mystery sauce and especially at a Taco truck if it's red you're going all right? Well how hot is this and you know. That first dip into your mouth and and the other person's coughing you know. Okay I'll avoid that for now.

01:05:39.46
Jamie
Yeah, there's ah, there's actually a couple of spots up here that where like the food trucks go and they just park. Um, and yeah, yeah, like I mean I wouldn't.

01:05:50.94
gunterman
It doesn't change. It's just kind of a normal location.

01:05:58.71
Jamie
Not so much food trucks as food trailers I guess you would say but ah I mean yeah, there's like there's one there on ah which I'm going to say this when only about 3 people maybe.

01:06:00.80
gunterman
So yeah I got some.

01:06:14.54
Jamie
But are listening. They're on airport road. It's got like yeah in hot springs it's got about 4 different places which one of them is a pizza place that was brick and mortar and they closed down because of covid and now they're in a food truck.

01:06:15.59
gunterman
And Hot springs.

01:06:31.88
Jamie
Which you know what's your biggest overhead is that it's going to be rent on a building and pretty much 90% of people when I order pizza. What do I do I get it to go or get it delivered. You know so but just yeah.

01:06:47.35
gunterman
Right? Well and I think oh yeah, especially like you said a pizza place you know nowadays most of them are are not making you know we we grew up where you had the pizza hut where you had a bunch of tables and you know had had ah a big salad bar and all this and now.

01:06:51.66
Jamie
Makes a lot of sense there.

01:07:06.39
gunterman
Went to Papa Johns who just just opened up just basically in my neighborhood here a bunch of houses and then as you exit the neighborhood right there before you even exit is a papa Johns and their their place when you walk in the door is about I don't know 10 but 10 maybe. You know it's you're you're not, you're not coming there to eat. You're getting it or you're calling them to deliver it to you and and so I think most people are doing that anyway and you're right I mean you eliminate all that overhead and so if you guys have never tried one hey step out and and try one look for good reviews. Obviously. See what's good, but you know branch out a little bit. It took me way too long I'm kind of embarrassed. So.

01:07:48.40
Jamie
And it's also a good thing too because like I was saying you know if you've got several different options in 1 spot. You know you got those k nuts where I don't really know what I'm craving or if I'm craving italian and my wife's craving Chinese you know, well right next to that. Pizza trailer is a habachi or you know japanese you know or asian food or you know anything like that. So I mean you've got options. Especially if you find like a place where there's multiple food trucks. Yeah.

01:08:20.70
gunterman
It. It's ah it's a mobile food court now now with ah with all the malls in the state they're in that may that reference may not last very long I don't know but it's ah that's a mobile food court now.

01:08:24.92
Jamie
That's basically what it is.

01:08:33.47
Jamie
Let's touch it.

01:08:37.56
gunterman
Well we I'll tell you what it's been a a treat for me to not have to speak this whole time while we're we're on this episode. Glad that glad oh yeah, it is all about me. But.

01:08:44.18
Jamie
Ah, don't don't lie. You enjoyed it.

01:08:52.34
gunterman
I'm glad you're back Jamie and and I hope you guys the listener have gotten some kind of entertainment I wish you could have seen some of the looks Jamie gave me and different things that would have been that would have been helpful for you. But I hope I hope this has been a been a good time something that you you learned or laughed at or. Maybe now you'll try a food truck or a 3 d printer who knows but for Jamie Tipton I'm John Gunter you guys have a great week and we'll see you later.

01:09:18.43
Jamie
Peace out.